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Topic: Customer Behavior

Where Is The Book On Consumer Rights?

Posted by Blaine Wilkerson on 750 Points
Could someone please direct me to the book on consumer rights?

Consumers seem to have it memorized; they can spit out any "right as a consumer" faster than Jesse James could draw his pistol. However, I have yet to find it.

Now, aside from the obvious stuff like;

1. The right not to get ripped-off.
2. The right to hold gas station cashiers to the advertised sale price of $11.99 for an 18-pack of Bud (even though the sale is over, but the sign is still up)
3. The right to return damaged/defective products.

What else is written and are they truly "rights"? I mean, technically, you don't even have to be nice to a consumer (have you been to McDonald's lately?). Doctors and hospitals provide service to consumers in exchange for $$$, but they can make you wait, accuse you of lying, ignore your calls, lose records, and "fire" you (ban you from their practice) for complaining about it.

Yet, you can take a 10 year old cresent wrench back to Wal-Mart and return it because "it sucks", and get $10, a smile, and a "Have a Nice Day".


Granted, most retailers seem to train employees to be nice and/or tolerant to irate consumers. Let's go back to McDonald's; if you complain to the manager (in a very rude, upset and unruly manner) that the girl in the drive through was zombie-like, didn't smile, and acted like you were asking to borrow $100 when you requested more than 3 packets of ketchup for 4 orders of fries....you may get a free meal and an Ice Cream cone!

In contrast, as a consultant, I can tell a client to go jump off a bridge if they are rude or unruly towards me. And that is within my "right" as a provider (now where is THIS book?).

So where do "Consumer Rights" come from (aside from the law and obvious legal rights relating to fraud, racism, etc)?Personally, I think they are made up, improv if you will, whatever sounds good to get your own way at the time... as a consumer that is, OR it can appeal to consumers who complain about the same thing long enough that a company delares it a "right".

Nonetheless, everyone seems to "know their rights as a consumer". Where do you learn these rights? Please direct me to the book, video, vo-tech, University, church, infommercial, etc that teaches these rights everyone seems to "know".

Thanks!
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  • Posted by Blaine Wilkerson on Author
    Randall, I said "except legal crap". There are a host of "consumer rights" that pop up every day:

    "It's my right to have 4 sizes and colors of shirts to choose from"

    "I know my rights, I'm paying for you to do surgery on my dog, so my buddy can tape it if I want him to"

    "Hey, you can't charge that much for an oil change, I know my rights" (even though the 5 foot tall, bright orange price is on the wall)

    "I know my rights, I derserve to be spoken to in a kind, professional tone even if I am treating you like crap...it's my right"

    "I know my rights, I can complain, yell, call the press, or whatever until you guys give me a refund even though it is against policy and I didn't read the paper I signed"


    that kind of stuff.

  • Posted by Inbox_Interactive on Accepted
    As you said, it's memorized, so it's in their minds. And if it's your customer's mind, you can either accept that fact and "play ball," or you can let your competitors do it for you.

    The choice is yours.

    You're no rookie, so you know that companies tend to do what's best for the company over the long haul, financially speaking, of course. If they make a favorable return for a customer, or give them a free meal, they are banking on it paying off down the road.

    However, I'll venture to say that not every retailer is as accommodating as you make out. If you yell in a store or otherwise act an ass, you're more likely to be asked to leave or have the cops called than you are to get free apple pie.

    As for our business, we fire customers now and again. Even if they are profitable, sometimes they're just not pleasant to work with, and life's too short.

    Curious ... having a bad Monday? ;)

    Paul
  • Posted by Inbox_Interactive on Accepted
    Well, in the examples you just gave, those are the rants of people who are frustrated.

    We always tell employees that if someone raises their voice or curses, the call should be transferred to me immediately. If the attitude stays intact, I explain that we're under no obligation to be yelled at or cursed at, and that I'll be more than happy to pick this conversation up when the mood has changed. Until then, "Click."

  • Posted by SteveByrneMarketing on Accepted
    I feel ya Blaine,

    IMHO there are no consumer rights (well the legal ones, yes). The idea of a consumer right is really a CONSUMER WISH. The consumer wishes to be treated as well as their best experience ever, every time. The only RIGHT the consumer has is to not buy, to walk out of a place, to say something, or ….


    That said, I found the following indicators of rights for your amusement.


    This "Bill of Rights" says a consumer has
    · the right to have access to mortgage credit,
    · the right to the lowest-cost mortgage for which the consumer can qualify,
    · the right to know the true cost of a mortgage,
    · the right to be free of regulatory burden, and
    · the right to know what is behind a lender's mortgage decision.

    https://www.fanniemae.com/initiatives/consumerrights.jhtml?p=Initiatives



    From your cable company:
    (1) Consumers should expect a fair deal from their local cable company, with reasonable rates that fairly reflect the costs of doing business.
    (2) Consumers should expect an explanation from their cable companies whenever rates for the programming service tier are raised, particularly when cable companies attribute price rises to increases in the cost of obtaining programming.
    (3) Consumers are entitled to write or call their cable companies whenever they have complaints about the cable services being provided on the various channels, or about program cost increases, and they should expect a speedy response.
    https://www.fcc.gov/Bureaus/Miscellaneous/News_Releases/1999/nrmc9015.html



    A Consumer's Bill of Rights


    All consumers of services offered by New York licensed professionals
    have the legal right to. . . .

    Receive competent professional services.

    Verify the credentials of licensed professionals and to know the names and titles of licensed professionals who provide service.

    Receive clear explanations of the services being offered or provided and how much they cost.

    Refuse any services offered.

    Know what client records will be maintained and how to obtain copies; personnally identifiable information normally cannot be revealed without the consumer's consent.

    File a complaint with the State Education Department about a licensed professional or an unlicensed practitioner.

    If you are a person with a disability, you may request and be provided a reasonable accommodation to access professional services.

    https://www.op.nysed.gov/rights.htm


    What is the Equifax Consumer Bill of Rights?
    Equifax believes that consumers should have the following rights:
    · The right to be considered for credit, insurance, employment and other benefits on your own merits, based on your record of actions and performances.
    · The right to be treated with respect and fairness whenever information about you is used.
    · The right to privacy consistent with the requests and demands you make of business.
    · The right to have your applications for benefits or opportunities evaluated on the basis of relevant and accurate information.
    · The right to know what information has been provided about you for consumer reporting purposes.
    · The right to know what consumer data is being maintained about you and to be able to review the information in a reasonable time, at a charge that is not excessive, in a format that is understandable, and with an ability to challenge and correct inaccurate information.
    · The right to expect that information about you that is collected or stored for consumer reporting purposes will not be used for unanticipated purposes without notice or consent appropriate to the circumstances.
    · The right to expect levels of accuracy consistent with sound practices of record keeping and information systems management.
    · The right to have information about you safeguarded through secure storage, confidential handling within the organization, and careful transmittal to authorized and legitimate users.


    https://www.mindspring.com/~mdeeb/equifax/cc/faqs/credit/rights.html


    may the buyer beware,

    - Steve
  • Posted by SRyan ;] on Member
    Lawd, have mercy... I typed "consumer rights" into the Amazon book search, and 402 titles came up!

    Somehow I doubt any of us will be lining up to place an order, Blaine... ;]
  • Posted by Pepper Blue on Accepted
    Hi Blaine,

    I think it is very simple, it is has to do with our economic system.

    Since I believe you are talking about the United States, we are of course a capitalistic society. Capitalism, besides the traditional economic definition, is also a social system based on the principle of individual rights.

    Furthermore, the economic doctrine in force here is the laissez-faire school of thought that holds that capitalism is best left to its own devices — that it will dispense with inefficiencies in a more deliberate and quick manner than any legislating body could.

    Thus, in our capitalistic society it is pervasively held by us as individuals that these inefficiencies are therefore unacceptable, because we have a "right" to an efficient marketplace and that all business should be strive for maximum efficiencies or they will no longer be in business.

    Anyway, that's my quick theory.....anything deeper is beyond the scope of this forum for me.
  • Posted by bobhogg on Accepted
    Blaine...

    You've opened up something on this one, haven't you?!

    Here's my twopennyworth...

    In any society, someone who has "rights" implies that someone else must have "obligations", otherwise that society is out of balance.

    So, if my customers have rights, my business has obligations towards those customers. Now, does my business also have rights? If so (and I believe that it does), my customers have obligations towards me.

    How about we collaborate on writing the book entitled "Customer Obligations"!

    Bob
  • Posted by SteveByrneMarketing on Accepted
    Regarding -- “Marshall Field (the man). HE told them that the customer is always right”

    I think the statement [paraphrased, can’t recall author] --
    “nobody has ever been successful by making the customer wrong” -- is more true and accurate for marketing purposes. It’s not about customer rights, it’s about a business decision to match customer’s expectations with customer’s experiences in a for-profit environment.

    Hopefully not splitting hairs here,

    - Steve
  • Posted by Blaine Wilkerson on Author
    Good stuff everyone. I'll comment in detail in a bit. Thanks for posting!

    -_Blaine
  • Posted by Blaine Wilkerson on Author
    Inbox: You make a valid point. Perhaps I was describing extreme situations, but what about someone who is kindly telling you to "shove it up your ass" and demanding some kind of consolation without raising their voice or being rude?

    My whole point is people make it up...or at least they get ideas of how much they expect from a company.

    What sparked all of this? Well, I am a consumer and had a problem with a specialty service with whom I have been an established client for a long time. I called twice to reschedule a meeting, however, after the second time, the receptionist told the "boss" I had called "several times" . So I get a call from a usually friendly guy asking me "what is my problem", etc. I was speachless. A few minutes later, I wanted to drive to his office and kick his butt for treating me so foul based on a lie from his receptionist.

    So I started thinking about my "rights". If I go up there and make a scene, they call the cops and I am still the bad guy. If I let it go, they will get the message they can speak to me that way again. So, I elected to call him back, chew his ear off, and find a new service provider...but not without telling that guy why he lost me.

    I was so mad because I had to jump through so many hoops because of a lie. I began to realize that people are rarely nice. I read some studies from the 90's stating that good customer service does not improve sales. People still need gas, doctors, car tags, clothes, french fries, groceries, etc whether the people are nice or not. Are you going to drive across town and pay more at a different store because the people are rude at the store 1/2 mile away? Probably not.

    Steve- Interesting points. I like the ones about mortgages! Thanks!!!

    Tim- Sounds like you are in an authoring mood! That text is worthy or publishing.

    I catch your drift, companies can change poicies to please consumers faster than a government committee.

    Marshal Field....well, I think his statement was rather obvious...nothing novel. But it has been misconstrued by consumers and companies alike. A line has to be drawn...no one is right all of the time.

    Good stuff. Man, I still want to beat that guy...lol. It's been awhile since I've been insulted and had my character challenged at the same time....it's like being accused of murder or something, you're like "what the hell is going on here!!!"..lol

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